East Whitney Rock Lake Tahoe to Mount Whitney: Your Backpacking Guide to the High Sierras Peak 1290 beyond Wanda Lake, Evolution Basin
Between Summit City Fords, Tahoe Yosemite Trail
Mount Whitney
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Carson Pass Management Area
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The
El Dorado National Forest

focusing on

Mokelumne Wilderness
for
Backpackers

hiking

Carson Pass
to
Ebbetts Pass (PCT) or Lake Alpine (TYT)

FOCUS
This trail guide covers the El Dorado National Forest in relation to the main Sierra Crest trails we are hiking North to South from Lake Tahoe to Mount Whitney.

These would be the Pacific Crest and Tahoe to Yosemite Trails. We do not pretend to present a comprehensive view of the El Dorado National Forest, but you can hike a lot of trips based on all or part of each of these classic routes across the Mokelumne Wilderness.

The maps reveal the potential for shorter trips using the trails intersecting midway along the routes of either the TYT or PCT crossing Mokelumne Wilderness. Check the trail guide through each section for more information on side trips and section hiking the Mokelumne Wilderness.

We also offer the El Dorado permit information for West Flank entrances into Desolation Wilderness below, to compliment the LTBMU's East Flank and Southern Trailheads into Desolation Wilderness..

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El Dorado National Forest


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Data

Established 1910   0 degrees in winter to 100 degrees in summer
596,724 acres   611 miles of fishable streams
56 inches of precipitation annually   297 lakes and reservoirs
Snow pack:
5 - 10 feet on average, up to 15 feet
  2,367 miles of roads
349 miles of trails from
1000 to 10,000 feet of elevation
  Woodland, chaparral, mixed conifer,
fir, and subalpine

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The El Dorado National Forest
for the
Long Distance Backpacker
Tahoe to Whitney approaches the El Dorado National Forest as it pertains to the main long distance and local backpacking routes along the Sierra Crest. This focuses our attention into and through the Western Mokelumne Wilderness route of the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail. The route of the PCT tracks across the Eastern Mokelumne Wilderness administered by the Toiyabe National Forest.
Thus this page focuses on the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail (The TYT) along the Western Flank of the Mokelumne Wilderness and the Pacific Crest Trail along its Eastern Flank South of the Lake Tahoe Basin. Yet the El Dorado National Forest wraps around the Western Flank of the Desolation Wilderness, offering a series of nifty Western Trailheads into Desolation Wilderness not administered by the LTBMU.

We pretty much ignore the Western Trailheads into Desolation Wilderness from the El Dorado National Forest because the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail starts out of Meeks Bay, and they are a bit remote from our Tahoe to Yosemite and on down to Whitney goals. Nonetheless, we could easily begin our Tahoe to Whitney backpacking trips through these Western trailheads accessing Desolation Wilderness through the El Dorado National Forest.

Though the El Dorado National Forest administers the Western Flank trailheads accessing Desolation Wilderness it does not administer the wilderness itself. Permitting for all access is through recreation.gov's Desolation Wilderness Page, which can be accessed from the LTBMU or El Dorado NF Desolation Wilderness links:

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Desolation Wilderness
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Western Trailheads

 

Split Administration of the Mokelumne Wilderness
El Dorado on the West
Well, the El Dorado manages most of the route of the TYT, which navigates across the Western flank of the Sierra through the very heart of the Mokelumne Wilderness. The majority of the Mokelumne Wilderness is administered by the Amador Ranger District of the El Dorado National Forest.

Toiyabe to the East & the Stanislaus to our South
The Toiyabe National Forest manages the tattered Eastern fringe of the Mokelumne Wilderness that the PCT crosses, while the Stanislaus NF oversees a significant slice of the Southern Mokelumne Wilderness along the Highway 4 corridor. The Toiyabe NF administers the Ebbetts Pass Trailheads. Ranger Districts Map.

Around the Mokelumne Wilderness
The Amador Ranger District (contact) administers all the Northern trailheads entering the Mokelumne Wilderness, such as through Carson Pass and at Caples and Silver Lakes.
The Carson Ranger District (contact) of the Toiyabe NF handles permits from the East into the Mokelumne Wilderness, while the Calavaras Ranger District of the Stanislaus NF (contact) administers the Southern Trailheads into the Mokelumne Wilderness.
See this Ranger Districts Map showing the roads and boundaries of Eastern and Southern parts of the Mokelumne Wilderness divided up between the Toiyabe and Stanislaus Forests, as well as the bulk of the wilderness under the jurisdiction of the Amador Ranger District of the El Dorado National Forest.

Though the Southbound Pacific Crest Trail hiker enters the El Dorado NF via Carson Pass we soon find that the majority of our hike South on the PCT down to Ebbetts Pass along the Sierra Crest is weaving along the Eastern edge of the Mokelumne Wildernes along the Western boundary within the Toiyabe National Forest.

The National Forest boundary between the El Dorado and Toiyabe National Forests, and the PCT, follow the Sierra Crestline South. We can use the maps below to examine the differences between the TYT and PCT routes. These maps also reveal that the terrain and routing of the PCT and TYT make tying them together into a big hiking loop impossible. This is unlike the Carson Iceberg and Emigrant Wilderness to our South, where we can use a range of connector trails to create alternative long distance routes or long local loops around each wilderness.

Carson Pass region Hiking Map           Mokelumne Wilderness Hiking Map

Hiking South from Carson Pass on Highway 88
Beginning a Southbound backpacking trip on either the Tahoe to Yosemite or Pacific Crest Trail from Carson Pass on Highway 88 requires we pull a permit from the Amador Ranger District of the El Dorado National Forest, represented by the Carson Pass Cabin.
The Carson Pass Cabin issues permits for local hikes around the Carson Pass Management Area, as well as for long distance backpacking trips North and South along the TYT and PCT beginning through the Carson Pass trailheads.

The Season of the Carson Pass Cabin is from when the "snow melts...until the snow starts falling,"
roughly from mid-June to mid-September.

Call the Carson Pass Cabin or the Amador Ranger Station for the precise status of the Carson Pass Cabin. The Amador Ranger Station issues permits when the Carson Pass Cabin is closed.

North from Carson Pass
Hiking North out of Carson Pass backpackers shortly begin climbing to the Carson Gap to enter the Lake Tahoe Basin. At the top of the Tahoe Rim we enter Meiss Country Roadless Area under the administration of the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit. The LTBMU administers all the land that drains into Lake Tahoe. The El Dorado National Forest once ran up to the Western Shore of Lake Tahoe until all lands that drain into Lake Tahoe were detached from the surrounding national forests and formed into the LTBMU.

Though Northbound backpackers starting trips out of Carson Pass are entering the Meiss Country of the LTBMU, the fine folks at the Carson Pass Cabin will issue backpacking and fire permits for all trips North and South out of Carson Pass.

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Intro
Lay of the Land

 

The PCT & TYT & the Mokelumne Wilderness


Carson Pass
Management Area


Tahoe to Yosemite Trail
Through the CPMA


Tahoe to Yosemite Trail
Through the El Dorado National Forest


Pacific Crest Trail
Through the El Dorado National Forest

 

Short Trips
Carson Pass & Round Top


Local Car Camping

 

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El Dorado National Forest
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Other
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Lake Tahoe Basin

El Dorado NF

Humboldt-Toiyabe NF

Stanislaus NF

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Below find the closest Ground Stations, Point and Regional Forecasts near Carson Pass and into the El Dorado National Forest.

Satellite and Radar Imagery provides Long Range and Regional overviews.

Carson Pass
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Summit City Creek

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Trail Guide
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Federal Resources
for the
Mokelumne Wilderness

The PUBLIC SPIRIT
Federal Volunteer Groups

El Dorado National Forest Interpretive Association

Mokelumne Wilderness Volunteers


Trail Guide Resources
Maps-Miles & Elevations-Trail Guide

North and South
of
Carson Pass

 Carson Pass
Region Backpacker's Map
Carson Pass to Highway 4
PCT & TYT
Map Index

Paper
On-Trail Mokelumne Wilderness Hiking Maps
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Maps
on the
Tahoe to Whitney
Trail Guide

Maps
North

Meiss Country, LTBMU

 

TYT & PCT
Echo Summit
to
Carson Gap
Meiss Country Roadless Area

 

 

Miles and Elevations
North

The PCT and TYT routes are unified North of the Carson Gap to the North end of Desolation Wilderness.

 

TYT & PCT
Miles and Elevations
Echo Summit
to
Carson Gap

 

 

Trail Guide
North

TYT
Carson Gap
to
Woods Lake

 

PCT
Carson Gap
to
Carson Pass

 

Maps
South

Mokelumne Wilderness, El Dorado National Forest
TYT
Echo Summit

to
Lake Alpine
Meiss Country and Mokelumne Wild


PCT
Carson Pass
to
Ebbetts Pass
Mokelumne Wilderness

Mokelumne Wilderness
30 minute hiking map

 

Miles and Elevations
South

TYT
Miles and Elevations
Carson Gap
to
Lake Alpine

 

PCT
Miles and Elevations
Carson Pass
to
Ebbetts Pass

 

Trail Guide
South

TYT
Round Top Lake
to
Fourth of July Lake

 

PCT
Carson Pass
to
Forestdale Divide


Federal Resources
National Forest
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Wilderness
Federal Website Links
for the
Mokelumne Wilderness

West
Mokelumne Wilderness
East
Mokelumne Wilderness

El Dorado National Forest

The Western Route
of the
Tahoe to Yosemite Trail



El Dorado National Forest
National Forest Home Page

 

El Dorado National Forest
All Ranger Districts
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El Dorado National Forest
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Ranger Districts Map

 


 El Dorado National Forest
Carson Pass Management Area
Information

 


 El Dorado National Forest
Mokelumne Wilderness
Information

Toiyabe National Forest

The Eastern Route
of the
Pacific Crest Trail



TW trail guide Page
Toiyabe National Forest

 

Toiyabe National Forest
National Forest Home page

 

 Carson Ranger District
Information


Bridgeport Ranger District
Information

 

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Mokelumne Wilderness
Information

Toiyabe National Forest
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Carson Pass Management Unit

The Lay of the Land

Backpacking South out of the Lake Tahoe Basin and out of the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit through the Carson Gap, we are entering the Amador Ranger District of the El Dorado National Forest near the beginnings of the boundary between the Toiyabe and El Dorado National Forests. Both of these National Forests border the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit, the Toiyabe around the Eastern side of Lake Tahoe and the El Dorado the Western.

These National Forests meet on the Southern edge of the Lake Tahoe Basin, where the Toiyabe NF boundary-line running North-South along the crest line of the Carson Range intersects with boundary of the El Dorado coming around the Southwestern crest line of the Tahoe Basin. These lines intersect and run South down the High Sierra Crest from near our exit point out of the Tahoe Basin through the Carson Gap.

Hiking South through the Carson Gap on the TYT-PCT route out of the Lake Tahoe Basin puts the boundary-line between the El Dorado and Toiyabe National Forests just to our left, (East) on our way down to Carson Pass. This boundary continues South along a very convoluted line down the Sierra Crest to Ebbetts Pass, with our Pacific Crest Trail route bouncing between the El Dorado and Toiyabe National Forests, and in-and-out of the tattered boundary of the Mokelumne Wilderness as well.

TYT

Essentially, the El Dorado National Forest administers the Western flank of the Sierras from Carson Pass South to a boundary described by the North fork of the Mokelumne River. We will enter the Stanislaus National Forest where we cross the river on our way to Lake Alpine along the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail route, while the Toiyabe National Forest administers the Eastern flank of the Sierras from far to the North of Lake Tahoe and far to the South past Ebbetts Pass along the Pacific Crest Trail.

PCT

Though the trailhead of the Southbound Pacific Crest Trail out of Carson Pass is administered by the Amador Ranger District, the majority of our route South is actually within the Toiyabe National Forest. The Toiyabe National Forest runs along the Eastern Flank of the Sierra Nevada from the East Flank of the Carson Range North of Lake Tahoe all the way down to Yosemite. The Northeast boundary of Yosemite National Park is composed of the Toiyabe's Hoover Wilderness. The majority of the length of the hike down Pacific Crest Trail from Carson Pass to the Yosemite Boundary at Dorothy Lake Pass is across the Toiyabe National Forest.

Backpackers starting trips from the East will contact the Carson Ranger District of the Toiyabe for permits.

Conclusion

The Tahoe to Yosemite Trail explores great sweeps down the Western flank of the Sierra Nevada Mountains before climbing back up to the crestline on its way down to the Yosemite Boundary, while the Pacific Crest Trail sticks high up near the crestline, mostly along the Eastern flank, with a few short exceptions.

Both of these trails pass through the Mokelumne Wilderness between Highway 88 and Highway 4, and each explores a different aspect of the Wilderness..

The Mokelumne Wilderness

The Mokelumne Wilderness showcases and protects the beautiful terrain along the Sierra Crest and flanks between the Carson Pass along Highway 88 South down to Ebbetts Pass on Highway 4.

The Mokelumne Wilderness is divided East and West along the top of the Sierra Crestline from Carson Pass South down to Ebbetts Pass. The Mokelumne Wilderness covers territory on both the Eastern and Western flanks of the Sierra Nevada, but the majority of the Mokelumne Wilderness lays on the Western flank, within the El Dorado National Forest. The Eastern side of the Mokelumne Wilderness has a complex boundary line that is deeply penetrated by cut outs with road access as opposed to the massive undisturbed bulk of the Western Mokelumne Wilderness. The Eastern side of the Mokelumne Wilderness in the Toiyabe National Forest looks like it was drawn with a shotgun.

The PCT

The Eastern side of the Mokelumne Wilderness is therefore sitting within and is administered by the Toiyabe National Forest. The Mokelumne Wilderness along the Western flank of the Sierra Nevada is within the El Dorado National Forest.

The Pacific Crest Trail is the Eastern Flank route along the Sierra Nevada Mountain crestline across the Mokelumne Wilderness, though the Toiyabe National Forest continues far South of where the Mokelumne Wilderness terminates just a bit North of Ebbetts Pass.

The Toiyabe National Forest administers the Pacific Crest Trail route South through the Carson Iceberg Wilderness down to Sonora Pass, and most of the route from Sonora Pass South to the Yosemite National Park boundary at Dorothy Lake Pass as well.

The majority of your PCT hike between the Lake Tahoe Basin down to the Yosemite boundary is within the Toiyabe National Forest. Not so with the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail's route.

The TYT

The Tahoe to Yosemite Trail passes South into the Mokelumne Wilderness when it turns onto the Western flank of the Sierra Nevada South of the Carson Gap. South of Carson Pass the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail passes through the heart of the El Dorado National Forest's section of the Mokelumne Wilderness, after passing through the heart of the pretty little Carson Pass Management Area.

In total, the El Dorado National Forest only spans 13.05 miles of our trip, but they are beautiful and exciting miles, from the Carson Gap to the ford of the North Mokelumne River at Camp Irene.

Unlike the Pacific Crest Trail's high and dry route deeply cut through the desolate volcanic beauty of the Eastern Flank of the Sierra Crestline, the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail begins shedding elevation after crossing South of Round Top. We will hike down into the unmaintained trail section through Summit City Creek's great granite canyon to the North Mokelumne River at Camp Irene, where we again pick up regular trail as we pass out of the El Dorado National Forest.

Though the TYT and PCT routes shared the same trail from Middle Velma Lake in Desolation Wilderness down to the Carson Gap, from our turn Southwest into the Summit City Creek South to Jenkins Canyon (located in the next National Forest to our South, the Stanislaus NF) the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail route is up to fifteen miles West of the actual Sierra Crestline and drops down to 6000 feet of elevation.

This can make for some hot hiking. Temps during July can hit the high 80s and low 90s!

South of Jenkins Canyon the nature of the terrain begins to push the TYT and PCT routes closer together as they approach Highway 108, the Sonora Pass Road. The PCT and TYT trailheads are only a mile apart on Highway 108 before the TYT again takes a Western flank route South from Kennedy Meadows.

Though the Western flank route of the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail is far off of the Sierra Crestline this is no problem, and many backpackers even consider this route superior to the Pacific Crest Trail's high route along the Eastern Flank of the Sierra.

Personally, I weave together what I consider the best routes, or routes I have not seen before, through each section from Tahoe to Whitney.

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The Carson Pass on Highway 88

Carson Pass

The Northern Gateway to hike South into the El Dorado or Toiyabe National Forests

Carson Pass Cabin Mokelumne Wilderness, El Dorado National Forest
Carson Pass Cabin, Carson Pass Highway 88 Just South of the Carson Cabin on the PCT you enter the Mokelumne Wilderness. map

 

The Carson Pass Management Area

The Carson Pass Management Area

contact information

Carson Pass Management Area Backpacking Map

CPMA information, federal website

The Carson Pass Management Area administers a very small, but a very popular backpacking, hiking, and car camping area located to the Southwest of Carson Pass. Popularity is due to its extremely accessible beauty. This popularity triggered the creation of the Carson Pass Management Area and its highly limited permitting policy.

The Carson Pass Management Area is incredibly regulated. Preserving the easily accessible stunning beauty here sparked the formation of the CPMA by El Dorado and Toiyabe National Forests to combat overuse. I was stunned (but not surprised) when they even went to the extent of actually assigning campsites.

I understand that the problem comes down to the relationship between the small size of the Round Top hiking area, its easy accessibility from huge and growing population centers, and the large number of people already using it. A balance must be struck.

Backpackers hiking out of the Lake Tahoe Basin Southbound on the Pacific Crest Trail, and PCT hikers in general have little concern with these CPMU restrictions. The Pacific Crest Trail route hikes across the Eastern edge of the CPMA, essentially going around the CPMU camping areas, except Winnemucca Lake. Winnemucca Lake is a 1.26 miles East of the PCT just a bit South of Carson Pass.

Tahoe to Yosemite Trail backpackers hike across the heart of the Carson Pass Management Area. TYT hikers have the luxury of three distinct routes across the Carson Pass Management Area, each of which explores different aspects of this deservedly popular mountain.

Carson Pass Managment Area
Carson Pass Management Area Sign on the way to Winnemucca Lake from Woods Lake

Thus the camping restrictions in the Carson Pass Management Unit mainly affects us Tahoe to Yosemite Trail backpackers who want to camp in the heart of the CPMU as we hike through. The CPMU doesn't care if we hike through (with a permit!) but they might get cranky if we stop and camp. Here's how I approach camping at the CPMU during a long distance backpacking trip:

First, I really want to enjoy the beauties of camping alongside Round Top Lake on my way South along the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail. It's the highest campsite since departing Meeks Bay. The problem is that permits are highly regulated in this area, and I've seen the Carson Pass Cabin claim only they could issue camping permits for the CPMU.

This presents potential, but not insurmountable problems for long distance backpackers. The solution relies on excellent information and detailed planning.

First, every long-distance permit issued from one National Forest must be honored by all subsequent NFs specified on the permit. Therefore it is very important that our permit specify "Round Top Lake " or "Fourth of July Lake" as one of our nightly campsites. We can go as far as specify a campsite number. Check the guide for details of campsites at Winnemucca Lake, Round Top Lake and Fourth of July Lake.

These specifications on our permit will, they must be honored on our long distance backpacking trip through the Carson Pass Management Area, and every subsequent administrative area all the way down to the Whitney Portal, including Yosemite.

It will not work for hiking Half Dome, if you are hiking down to the Yosemite Valley from Tuolumne Meadows. A separate Half Dome permit is required from Yosemite National Park. This is the only exception to the "It's cool if it's on your permit" rule that I am currently aware of.

This strategy will not work for PCT hikers hiking on a PCT permit. PCT permits only allow hiking in the "PCT corridor" and NO TRAILS off the PCT. None at all.

Very Few Campsites

The CPMA laid out designated campsites to both limit the number of overnight permits and contain the damage of campsites to a few locations. This tiny area administers Winnemucca Lake (three sites), Round Top Lake (six sites), and 4th of July Lake (six sites).

This shortage of sites and very heavy local backpacker traffic means that local backpackers, backpackers hiking in for a weekender, or on short local trip into or around the Carson Pass Management Area are lined up every weekend morning during the high Summer Backpacking season at the Carson Pass Cabin to get one of the few permits available.

Not Cool!

Remember, permits for short backpacking trips that start and stay within this small zone centered around Carson Pass can only be had at the Carson Pass Cabin, or the Amador Ranger Station when the Carson Pass Cabin is closed. (contacts)

I don't suggest bypassing the logical permit restrictions at the CPMU, but I also can't see missing a night at Round Topo on the Southbound Tahoe to Yosemite Trail. Round Top and The Sisters is a high point.

If we are coming in from the East we can check with the Carson Ranger District of Toiyabe National Forest Ranger Station about Eastern trailheads into Summit City Canyon as alternatives to entering the canyon over Round Top and The Sisters.

The Carson Pass Management Area

Carson Pass Management Area map detail

Trailhead map of the Carson Pass Management Area: Yellow line marks the CPMA, the Green Line marks the boundary of the Mokelumne Wilderness.

Carson Pass Hiker Resources

Trail Guide Information

Backpacking Maps

 Carson Pass Region
Backpacker's Map


North

TYT & PCT

Echo Summit
to
Carson Gap

 

South

TYT
Carson Gap
to
Lake Alpine

PCT
Carson Pass
to
Ebbetts Pass

Tahoe to Whitney
Trail Guide Page

Carson Pass

Federal Website Resources

Fed Info
El Dorado National Forest
Carson Pass Management Area

El Dorado National Forest Map
Carson Pass Management Area Map
(this page has been dumped, again...I'm watching for its return. Apparently the Forest Service cannot stop constantly changing their websites...)

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CPMA

The Carson Pass Management Area
for
Long Distance Backpackers

The Pacific Crest Trail and Tahoe to Yosemite routes

Hikers on both the Tahoe to Yosemite and Pacific Crest Trails will touch the Carson Pass Management Area.

Tahoe to Yosemite Route
through the
Carson Pass Management Area

Southbound backpackers on the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail route turn Southwest from the Carson Gap to pass through the heart of the Carson Pass Management Area, which is centered on the magnificent Round Top and Sisters massif.

Tahoe to Yosemite Trail hikers are heading South across Round Top and The Sisters to pass through the El Dorado National Forest administered Western Mokelumne Wilderness to Lake Alpine. This route crosses the Western flank of the Sierra Nevada on its way South towards Tuolumne Meadows in Yosemite. We would be hiking South on the other side of the mountain, the Eastern Flank, if we had chosen to hike the Pacific Crest Trail route South out of the Tahoe Basin via Carson Pass instead of the TYT. Hiking South from Carson Pass on the Pacific Crest Trail route brings us around the perimeter of the Carson Pass Management Area.

Tahoe to Yosemite Trail hikers walk through the heart of the Carson Pass Management Area over Round Top and past Fourth of July Lake, or possibly Winnemucca Lake, depending on which route we select to make our way from the Carson Gap into Summit City City's awesome canyon.

Our route options.

I recommend spending a night at Round Top Lake to give ourselves an early start the next morning to get as far through the 9.52 mile unmaintained section of trail between Summit City Creek and Camp Irene as our plans call for.
Heck, we should camp at Round Top Lake because regardless of the trail we are hiking, be it the Tahoe to Yosemite or Pacific Crest Trail, because Round Top Lake offers one of the finest places to camp for many miles in every direction.
Really.

Through Hiker Permits

As we are hiking through multiple (every) National Forest on your way South to Mount Whitney, every subsequent National Forest and Wilderness Area we pass through must honor our original permit. We do not need to obtain any additional permits after obtaining our our original permit from the issuing authority of our opening trailhead.

Well, right now, in 2012 at least. For a while the Whitney Zone was requiring that all permits issued with an exit through the Whitney Portal have a "Whitney Stamp," only issued by them. That policy ended a number of years ago. It did not last long. I've got a "Whitney Stamp" on one of my Tahoe to Whitney permits from that era. At this time there are no "pre-restrictions" for special zones that I am aware of.

Except Half Dome Permits Forum

Post up here if you are aware of any "double" permit zones in the Sierra Nevada Mountains between Lake Tahoe and Mount Whitney. Or here for anything pertaining to the El Dorado National Forest of interest.

The nice folks at the Carson Pass Management Area are very hard-ass about getting permits from them for trips into the CPMA, but they must honor permits issued by other National Forests.

If you want to camp at Round Top or Fourth of July Lake Lake, then make sure that you name it as a campsite on the permit you draw from the permitting authority of your starting trailhead.

The Pacific Crest Trail Route
through the
Carson Pass Management Area

Hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail just graze the Eastern boundary of the Carson Pass Management Area. The Pacific Crest Trail's route along the Eastern edge of the Carson Pass Management Area puts Round Top Lake 2.14 miles to the West of the Winnemucca Lake trail junction with the Pacific Crest Trail.

I figure that the PCT hiker's Eastern route across the Mokelumne Wilderness to or from Ebbetts Pass makes camping in the Carson Pass Management Area a secondary consideration to their daily quest for mileage, but it is still a possibility. As camping at Round Top Lake is off of the Pacific Crest Trail's route, this side trip will adds a round trip distance of 4.28 miles to your total mileage to and from the Pacific Crest Trail at the Winnemucca Lake trail junction. That distance can be shortened a bit.

The PCT Corridor Permit Rules prohibit PCT hikers from camping at Round Top Lake...

Northbound PCT from Winnemucca Lake
I do not hike East back to the Pacific Crest Trail through Winnemucca Lake. Instead I hike North and reconnect with the Pacific Crest Trail entering the Lake Tahoe Basin at the Carson Gap via either the Lost Cabin or the Woods Creek trail routes. The former is steeper and shorter, the latter gentler but longer.

Camping at Round Top Lake may be worth the extra efforts and miles for PCT hikers if you were not required to stop at the Carson Cabin to pick up a permit before camping there.

Round Top Lake offers camping at the highest altitude (9360 feet), with the best views, and has the nicest environment of all the campsites from Showers Lake (4.79 miles North of Carson Pass), to the series of lakes South of Blue Lake Road. Heck, I don't think Northbound Hikers are going to see anywhere to camp in the 9000 foot elevation range for the rest of the Pacific Crest Trail all the way to Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Round Top will be Pacific Crest Trailers last high altitude campsite!

I enjoy Round Top Lake better than both of those other nearby places to camp, and many others apparently agree with me, judging by the amount of locals up there on a Summer weekend.

As most backpackers on the Pacific Crest Trail route are just scraping the Eastern edge of the Carson Pass Management Area on their way North, I figure it is unlikely that a serious Pacific Crest Trail hiker will actually veer 2.14 miles off the Pacific Crest Trail to camp at Round Top, let alone anywhere else off of the Pacific Crest Trail. This is due to the pressure of time and permit constraints. But I've seen it happen.

If we are hiking the Pacific Crest Trail route in sections or hiking the Lake Tahoe to Mount Whitney trails you have the flexibility to meander a bit off of our route. Take it. Put Round Top Lake on your permit.
I can't help but recommend planning a night at Round Top Lake into our itinerary. As I mentioned, it is the highest, if not the finest place to camp for miles in every direction.

Again, if you are hiking long distances on a standard federal permit, MAKE SURE that you name your Carson Pass Management Area campsite location on your Permit! (i.e., "Round Top Lake.")

I've never worried about naming one of their specific campsites on any of my through permits through here, though I guess I could. The sites are sequentially numbered at each location.
This tiny area administers Winnemucca Lake (three sites), Round Top Lake (six sites), and 4th of July Lake (six sites).

Carson Pass Management Area.  As I repeat, a through hiker's subsequent National Forests, Wilderness, and National Parks must honor permits issued by other National Forests and Special Zones. If we did not name a campsite in the Carson Pass Management Area on our original permit we will have to hike to the Carson Cabin to see if an overnight permit is available.

This "naming" requirement is true of every busy location down the trail to the Whitney Portal. We make sure that we specifically name every location, especially locations in crowded location like Yosemite that we want to camp at on our long distance permit down to Mount Whitney.
As a through hiker, all permitting authorities, even the ones that are totally "booked up" must honor our permit.

I am not saying that we cannot camp in a place not named on our permit, (we will) but it is very important that all of the places that we plan on camping in high-traffic "Special Zones," such as the CPMA, Yosemite, and highly impacted places like "The Whitney Zone" should be specifically named on our permit. This will minimize troubles with the Local Ranger Man.

Better safe than disappointed.

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CPMA

Carson Pass Management Area for Short Trips

The Sad and Glad Facts about the Carson Pass Management Area
It's Small
It's Crowded
It's Beautiful

Permits

Well, not really crowded. They issue too few permits for crowding, thank common sense. But, it is busy up there. Hiking folks hiking by.

Short distance backpackers into the Carson Pass Management Area are served on a first-come, first-served basis at the Carson Pass Cabin. The problem with this is that Carson Pass Management Area is very small and has a very limited number of campsites for backpackers. There are a grand total of 15 campsites in the whole Carson Pass Management Area. Winnemucca Lake has 3 sites, Round Top Lake has 6 sites, and Fourth of July Lake has 6 sites. Hey, it's a small and intensely beautiful place.

Permits for these sites are not available over the phone, by mail, or by reservation. Permits for trips starting and staying in the Carson Pass Management Area will only be issued at the Carson Pass Cabin during summertime, and at the Amador Ranger Station when the Carson Pass Cabin is closed.

Even with these restrictions the Carson Pass Management Area is busy. Round Top Lake is a premium beautiful high altitude lake very close to both paved roads and the over-grown populations of Lake Tahoe, the Valley, and the Bay Area. Busy-busy-busy.

During Summer weekends the short distance backpacker hoping to camp on Round Top would be well served to have alternative backpacking plans, even if we can get to the Carson Pass Cabin when they open at (8am?). There may be no permits available for folk at the end of the line.

An alternative would be to backpack North from Carson Pass into Meiss Meadow, (In the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit, which requires no permits at all!) and continue to the NW on the PCT-TY route towards Showers Lake, or to the NE down Christmas Valley towards Round Lake, and on to the South Upper Truckee trail head in Meyers.

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Local Backpacking Trailheads
The El Dorado, Toiyabe, and Stanislaus National Forests
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Administration of the Mokelumne Wilderness

We can access the Mokelumne Wilderness from all Compass Points for short and medium distance local backpacking trips. Doing so requires we draw our permit from the National Forest administering that trailhead. There are three National Forests administering the Mokelumne Wilderness.

Entering Mokelumne Wilderness from the East and Southeast
Backpacking trips beginning into the Mokelumne Wilderness starting out of Northeastern and Eastern trailheads will need to contact the Carson Ranger District in the Toiyabe National Forest for permits. A number of dirt roads penetrate the Eastern flank of the Mokelumne River from the Blue Lakes Road.

Entering Mokelumne Wilderness from the North and Northwest
Trips into the Mokelumne from the North, such as through Carson Pass, must contact the Carson Pass Cabin or the Amador Ranger District in the El Dorado NF for permits.

If the Carson Pass Cabin is closed, the Amador Ranger Station will issue permits. Our Northwestern entry points stretch West from Carson Pass down Highway 108. These trailheads are also administered by the Amador Ranger District of the El Dorado National Forest.

Hiking into the Mokelumne Wilderness from the Southwest
For backpacking trips North into the Mokelumne Wilderness from the Southwest on Highway 4, such as from Lake Alpine, we take note that the territory on the Western Flank of the Sierra West of Ebbetts Pass is within the Calavaras Ranger District of the Stanislaus NF, while everything East of Ebbetts Pass is part of the Carson Ranger District of the Toiyabe NF.

 

 

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South
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Heart of the Western Mokelumne Wilderness
in the
El Dorado National Forest

Carson Pass
to
Lake Alpine

The
Tahoe to Yosemite Trail

Western Mokelumne Wilderness
El Dorado National Forest

The Character of Terrain and Trail

The backpacker on the Tahoe to Yosemite trail will be spending the next 16.45 miles in the El Dorado National Forest administered Mokelumne Wilderness hiking from the Carson Gap to Camp Irene.

After cutting Southwest through the active heart of the CPMA over Round Top and The Sisters, we will drop down into very quiet Summit City Canyon on the South flank of Round Top and The Sisters.
Over there we will follow Summit City Creek downstream along an unmaintained trail route down to the North Fork of the Mokelumne River.
The North Fork of the Mokelumne River marks the boundary between the El Dorado and Stanislaus National Forest at Camp Irene, but we continue hiking in the Mokelumne Wilderness up to the top of Mount Reba, though the Mokelumne Wilderness here is now under the administration of the Stanislaus National Forest.

The Summit City Creek and Mokelumne River canyons are "typical," if anything so majestic can be called typical, of the breathtaking interface between massive granite canyons and volcanic valleys draining the Western Sierra flanks. Hiking over to the Southern flank of the volcanic Round Top from Round Top Lake reveals the massive granite bulk of Deadwood Peak making up the Southeast wall of Summit City Canyon.

As we hike down to Fourth of July Lake and past into Summit City Canyon we can see that the Southern flank of Round Top and the Sisters, which makes up the North wall of the upper canyon, is completely composed of volcanic material, which we can see running East up to Forestdale Divide.
The canyon wall across from us is made up of notable elements of the Deadwood Peak Massif. Directly across from Fourth of July Lake is a great granite wave in the mountainside. The fantastic feature of Devils Corral makes up the uppermost end of the South flank of Summit City Canyon.
As we hike down into Summit City Canyon on the South flank of Round Top and the Sisters we get views up and down Summit City Canyon, revealing that our route down to the North Mokelumne River will be within a majestic granite canyon.
We will also find that the Lake Tahoe to Yosemite trail to Camp Irene has not been maintained for many years, (UPDATES) and that we are in for 9.52 miles of rough going.

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At Camp Irene the Tahoe to Yosemite route fords the North Fork of the Mokelumne River, which as I mentioned above, also marks our transition from the El Dorado into the Stanislaus National Forest. Trail conditions change dramatically.

First and foremost for most backpackers is the fact that we are now back onto maintained trails, more or less. Of equal importance is the fact that we are once again crossing grand interfaces between the great gray granites of Summit City Creek and rusty red volcanic ridges dotted with hard black erosion sculptures standing straight up on pedestals of volcanic debris.
Observe this interface as we climb to and over Mount Reba out of Camp Irene, and then down the other side of Mount Reba to Lake Alpine. We will see it up the Clarks Fork and across the Emigrant Wilderness. Walking the interface between the volcanic and granite terrain is a main feature splitting the beauty of our hike between volcanic reds spanning from screaming stoplight red all the way to smoldering dark reddish blacks. The spectrums of granite cross pink and gold to classic battleship gray. We will bounce across this interface down to the Yosemite National Park Boundary. From the Yosemite Boundary to Tuolumne we will once again be exclusively traveling through grand granite terrain. Well, we will once we get a short ways down Jack Main Canyon.

The Mokelumne Wilderness extends a short distance further South from our ford of the N. Mokelumne River at Camp Irene, ending at the top of Mount Reba in the Stanislaus National Forest. The Southbound Tahoe to Yosemite route will enter our next Wilderness, the Carson-Iceberg Wilderness, just South of Lake Alpine.

We will be hiking through the Stanislaus National Forest down to Highway 4, and far beyond. The Stanislaus administers both the Carson Iceberg and Emigrant Wilderness Areas that we will hike across on our way South down to the Yosemite National Park Boundary.

The Western side of the Carson Iceberg Wilderness is administered by the Stanislaus National forest between Highway 4 and Highway 108. The Eastern section of the Carson-Iceberg Wilderness sits on the Eastern Flank of the Sierras, and is administered by the Toiyabe National Forest between Ebbetts and Sonora Passes.

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I include information about the Toiyabe National Forest as it lays covers the Mokelumne Wilderness on the East flank of the Sierra Crest between Highways 88 and 4 while the El Dorado National Forest covers the Western.
The El Dorado National Forest splits administration of the Mokelumne Wilderness with the Toiyabe N, again splitting the Wilderness on a line drawn along the Sierra Crest.

The Toiyabe National Forest administers the East flank of the Sierra Nevada from the East flank of the Carson Range off the East shore of Lake Tahoe all the way South through the Hoover Wilderness almost all the way South to Highway 120.

Anytime we turn Left, East off the Southbound Pacific Crest Trail between Lake Tahoe to Tuolumne Meadows we are hiking into the Toiyabe National Forest.

We will hike through the El Dorado and Stanislaus National Forests between Tahoe and Yosemite.

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EL DORADO NATIONAL FOREST
Fed Web Contacts Page

Main office
El Dorado National Forest
100 Forni Road
Placerville, CA 95667

(530) 622-5061

Monday through Friday 8:00 am to 4:30 pm

 

El Dorado
RANGER DISTRICTS

CARSON PASS CABIN

Carson Pass, Highway 88
Located at the Carson Pass
parking and rest area on Highway 88.

Open from mid-June to mid-September.

2013 Hours
Sun-Thur: 8:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M.
Fri & Sat: 8:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M.

Call the Carson Pass Cabin during Summer for more information:
(209) 258-8606

Call the Amador Ranger Station for information off-season and when the Carson Cabin is closed:
(209) 295-4251

Federal Website: carson pass management area

El Dorado National Forest Interpretive Association (ENFIA) Website: Carson Pass Cabin

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AMADOR RANGER DISTRICT

DOUG BARBER, DISTRICT RANGER

26820 Silver Drive
Pioneer, CA 95666

Phone: 209-295-4251

Office Hours: 8:00 AM - 4:30 PM

Summer Schedule: Monday - Saturday from Memorial Weekend to Labor Day .Winter Schedule: Monday - Friday. Closed Holidays

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 TOIYABE NATIONAL FOREST
Fed Web Contacts Page

Main office
Toiyabe National Forest
1200 Franklin Way
Sparks, NV 89431

(775) 331-6444

Monday through Friday 8:00 am to 4:30 pm

 

Toiyabe
RANGER DISTRICTS

CARSON RANGER DISTRICT

(Eastern Sierra flank from Carson Range East and South of Lake Tahoe to Sonora Pass)

Genny Wilson, District Ranger
1536 South Carson Street
Carson City, NV 89701

(775) 882-2766

Monday through Friday 8:00 am to 4:30 pm

 

 

BRIDGEPORT RANGER DISTRICT

(Eastern Sierra flank from Sonora Pass to NE border of Yosemite, then South along E. edge of the Hoover Wilderness)

Cheryl Probert, District Ranger

HC 62
Box 1000
Bridgeport, CA 93517

(760) 932-7070

Winter: Monday through Friday 8:00 am to 4:30 pm
Summer: Seven days a week 8:00 am to 4:30 pm

 

 

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Mokelumne Wilderness Permit Information
See the Fed Site

Campfires - Campfires are allowed below 8,000 feet in elevation. Camp stoves are allowed in the entire wilderness. Your Wilderness Permit is also your campfire permit while visiting the Mokelumne Wilderness in a location where a campfire or camp stove is allowed.

Campfires are prohibited in the following locations:
Above 8,000 feet.
Carson Pass Management Area
North Fork Mokelumne River Canyon along Salt Springs Reservoir and the Blue Hole Trail.

Campfires are prohibited to reduce human-caused fires, impacts to vegetation from firewood collection, and to reduce the visual impacts of fire rings and surface scarring.

Method of Travel - Travel is restricted to horseback or foot only. Trails in the Mokelumne Canyon are maintained in a primitive and challenging condition and are not recommended for stock use. All means of mechanical transportation, including bicycles, are prohibited in wilderness. Wheelchairs are allowed. Stay on trails and do not shortcut switchbacks or create parallel ruts by walking alongside the trail.

 

Waste - Visitors are required to bury human waste 6 to 8 inches deep and at least 200 feet away from water, trails, and campsites. Toilet paper must be buried or packed out. Garbage must be packed out.

Group Size - Maximum group size: 12 people for day-use, and 8 people for overnight use.

Pets - Domestic pets are allowed in the Mokelumne Wilderness at this time. You are responsible for their actions as well as their welfare. In the Carson Pass Management Area pets should be leashed or physically restrained at all times. Elsewhere within the Wilderness, dogs should be either leashed or under direct voice control. Dogs can disturb other campers, get in fights with other dogs along the trail, and scare wildlife away. The Amador and Alpine County leash laws will be enforced inside the Wilderness boundary where dogs off leash are an impediment or hazard to the safety of any person, or where dogs are harassing or molesting wildlife.




Desolation Wilderness Permit Information
Amador Ranger District
contact info above

See the Fed Site

Group Size - Maximum group size is 12 people for both day and overnight use.

Campfires -Campfires are prohibited in Desolation Wilderness to reduce human-caused fires, impacts to vegetation from firewood collection, and to reduce the visual impacts of fire rings and surface scarring. Your wilderness permit is also your campfire permit for your gas camp stove while visiting the Desolation Wilderness.

Method of Travel - Travel is restricted to horseback or foot only. All means of mechanical transportation, including bicycles, carts, and snowmobiles, are prohibited in the wilderness. Wheelchairs are allowed. Stay on trails and do not shortcut switchbacks or create parallel ruts by walking alongside the trail.

Stock - Livestock is limited to two livestock per person, or 12 livestock in one group. Do not hitch, tether, or hobble a horse or other saddle or pack animal within 200 feet of a water source or within 100 feet of a campsite.

Waste - Visitors are required to bury human waste 6 to 8 inches deep and at least 200 feet away from water, trails, and campsites. Toilet paper must be buried or packed out. Garbage must be packed out.

Pets - Domestic pets are allowed in the Mokelumne Wilderness at this time. You are responsible for their actions as well as their welfare. In the Carson Pass Management Area pets should be leashed or physically restrained at all times. Elsewhere within the Wilderness, dogs should be either leashed or under direct voice control.
Dogs can disturb other campers, get in fights with other dogs along the trail, and scare wildlife away.

The Eldorado County leash laws will be enforced inside the Wilderness boundary where dogs off leash are an impediment or hazard to the safety of any person, or where dogs are harassing or molesting wildlife.

Natural Resources
The Desolation Wilderness is managed according to the Wilderness Act of 1964 to "ensure an enduring resource of Wilderness for present and future generations." The wilderness character of the Desolation and its values of solitude, physical and mental challenge, scientific study, inspiration and primitive recreation will be protected, and where necessary, restored. Natural ecological conditions will be preserved under a concept of non-degradation, to prevent further loss of naturalness or solitude. Detailed information may be found in the Desolation Wilderness Management Guidelines and Land Management Plan Amendment.

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Entering the Mokelumne Wilderness from the West or Southbound along the Sierra Crestline through Carson Pass requires we obtain our permits from the El Dorado National Forest.

Entering the Mokelumne Wilderness from the East or Northbound along the PCT through Ebbetts Pass requires we obtain our permits from the Toiyabe National Forest.

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